Completed Lost Hope v1.2 (Clay Corridor Fix)

_pheebs · Aug 11, 2020

A small guide to each collectible Candy. In case your struggling.

Ekat · Aug 12, 2020

Just beat the game! I really enjoyed this short adventure! It was a fun experience, and had just the right amount of creepy ambiance to it. I appreciate that the game relied moreso on building a creepy atmosphere, more than trying to jumpscare the player or rely on unnecessary gore. The spritework for the Pokémon was also excellent! The art and music really went a long way to building up the tension as you explore the Complex. A good example of that is when-

-you go through the dark maze where the statue follows after you. You get the first little hint that something's up just as the screen fades, and you see the statue twitch. Then there's the little boulder push noise as you traverse through the dark maze, building up the worry that it's catching up to you.

A couple of bugs

Several of the objects in the Complex didn't have direction fix on them (the vase in the mirror room, the gems, etc)
The credits test NPC is in the final hallway
The collision in the final town as a couple of different errors- the pink pathway isn't passable, the buildings, fences, and signposts are passable, etc.

A couple of nitpicks

I think the battle UI would be easier to look at if you made it grey instead of pure black
The text on the party screen is also difficult to read because it's white on white
Maybe include a message of some sort about the furniture for the missing furniture room being elsewhere in the Complex? I felt like this puzzle was just a bit too cryptic, given all the furniture there is around the facility.
While I did get all the candies in the end, I wish that there was a way to go back and get some of them. (Ex: both candies in the maze, the candies outside of the facility.) That way the player could go back and get the good ending, rather than needing to soft reset or start entirely over. I'm not sure what the best way to go about that would be, but maybe Jack could offer to sell you the miss-able candies right at the end?

All-in-all, great job with this game! The graphics and themes were excellent!

_pheebs · Aug 12, 2020

Ekat said:
Just beat the game! I really enjoyed this short adventure! It was a fun experience, and had just the right amount of creepy ambiance to it. I appreciate that the game relied moreso on building a creepy atmosphere, more than trying to jumpscare the player or rely on unnecessary gore. The spritework for the Pokémon was also excellent! The art and music really went a long way to building up the tension as you explore the Complex. A good example of that is when-

-you go through the dark maze where the statue follows after you. You get the first little hint that something's up just as the screen fades, and you see the statue twitch. Then there's the little boulder push noise as you traverse through the dark maze, building up the worry that it's catching up to you.

A couple of bugs

Several of the objects in the Complex didn't have direction fix on them (the vase in the mirror room, the gems, etc)

The credits test NPC is in the final hallway

The collision in the final town as a couple of different errors- the pink pathway isn't passable, the buildings, fences, and signposts are passable, etc.

A couple of nitpicks

I think the battle UI would be easier to look at if you made it grey instead of pure black

The text on the party screen is also difficult to read because it's white on white

Maybe include a message of some sort about the furniture for the missing furniture room being elsewhere in the Complex? I felt like this puzzle was just a bit too cryptic, given all the furniture there is around the facility.

While I did get all the candies in the end, I wish that there was a way to go back and get some of them. (Ex: both candies in the maze, the candies outside of the facility.) That way the player could go back and get the good ending, rather than needing to soft reset or start entirely over. I'm not sure what the best way to go about that would be, but maybe Jack could offer to sell you the miss-able candies right at the end?

All-in-all, great job with this game! The graphics and themes were excellent!

1.1 Bug Fix:

I think I fixed all direction fixes.
Credit NPC gone.
Collisions fixed.

Changelog:

All of the above fixed.
Train Station added in after story town (Basically a dev room with unused stuff, and random trivia)
Text of party screen changed to dark grey ish
Mirror room now has a sign stating to match the rooms. I forgot to add that.
If you do not get Candy 1, and 2. Jack sells them, but cheaper than the main candy he sells.
The Dark Corridor has been fixed. After going through it once you can go in and out as you please.

Download here

KennyCatches · Aug 15, 2020

Hey I just finished Lost Hope and really liked it! I have some thoughts below:

- The creepy atmosphere and art were done really well!
- I really loved the flashback cut scenes from each doll, I wanted to learn even more about Hope's past and her family though.
- The wild encounter rate is too high imo, I also ran away from every wild pokemon because I didn't think I'd need to level up my pokemon.
- The diamond room took forever because I was quite confused, especially since there were so many chairs throughout the complex that I couldn't use.
- The other puzzles were cool though! Also liked collecting the candy.
- Good music choice (thank you for adding tobyfox's music)

Overall, I had lots of fun in this little adventure! Great job!

_pheebs · Aug 15, 2020

KennyCatches said:
Hey I just finished Lost Hope and really liked it! I have some thoughts below:

- The creepy atmosphere and art were done really well!
- I really loved the flashback cut scenes from each doll, I wanted to learn even more about Hope's past and her family though.
- The wild encounter rate is too high imo, I also ran away from every wild pokemon because I didn't think I'd need to level up my pokemon.
- The diamond room took forever because I was quite confused, especially since there were so many chairs throughout the complex that I couldn't use.
- The other puzzles were cool though! Also liked collecting the candy.
- Good music choice (thank you for adding tobyfox's music)

Overall, I had lots of fun in this little adventure! Great job!

Thanks for your input.
I suppose the chair quest is a bit hard.
If more things need changing I'll be sure to change that up as well.

TheGamingPaladin · Aug 31, 2020

the very look from the screenshots and the description of the game is making the oldschool Lavender Town theme play in my head, my spidey sense is tingling already.

_pheebs · Sep 1, 2020

TheGamingPaladin said:
the very look from the screenshots and the description of the game is making the oldschool Lavender Town theme play in my head, my spidey sense is tingling already.

Thanks, I like to make my Game Jams have a somewhat creepy feel.
If you like the looks of this one, I recommend my other game, Experimental Gameplay too~

NurseEthi · Sep 5, 2020

Live reaction on stream right now.

loss in the first 30 seconds of gameplay
0/10 game

no, I'll give a full detailed something in the near future, but until then, I need you to know my disappointment.

_pheebs · Sep 5, 2020

NurseEthi said:
Live reaction on stream right now.

loss in the first 30 seconds of gameplay
0/10 game

no, I'll give a full detailed something in the near future, but until then, I need you to know my disappointment.

All my games have the forbidden meme within the first 30 seconds of gameplay. Muahaha.
Also, do you archive your streams? I'd love to watch it when i have free time~!

NurseEthi · Sep 7, 2020

_pheebs said:
Also, do you archive your streams? I'd love to watch it when i have free time~!

Yes! All of my streams for this jam have been on my YouTube channel which you can find if you click here!

Marin · Sep 30, 2020

I would say this game's main selling points are the various puzzles and sequences in which you have to do certain events and puzzles, and the story and backstory that drives the game. From start to finish, the game follows a defined and established story with four flashbacks to the past to provide backstory and build up the characters more. This realism, along with the setting really captured my attention at the start of the game and managed to put a smile on my face.

The game is highly exploratory by nature, and that suits my play style well. I always like to check as many locations and places of interest as I can, and that served me well in this game, helping me find 19 out of 20 candies myself (and using your reference images for the last one; I'd missed one rock). This was quite rewarding, and provided incentive to explore.

I understand that not everyone has had this same experience, but you were required to interact with a computer in a specific room. I had missed this computer, as both the computer and the room looked like every other room, which made me have to go out of my way to ask how to continue. In my opinion, this level of interaction detail should only be used for optional content, such as the candies, and make the main, crucial gameplay slightly more obvious than that, as all the previous rooms/keys had done.

The Abandoned Complex seemed daunting and slightly tiring before I got started, but as I progressed, I grew to like it more. It wasn't as big as I had feared, and was just perfect in size; not too big, nor too small.

The puzzles were all unique from one another, and were perfect in difficult. They didn't hold your hand more than was necessary, but they also weren't so cryptic that you'd be completely in the dark. I felt they were thought out well and executed well.

The choice to leave Pokémon and battling play a subrole in the game was fine, and worked. However, with that viewpoint in mind, forcing wild encounters to still be as common (or existent at all) nonetheless, was rather annoying. Battling served no purpose, and so being interrupted by a battle every few steps was quite a hindrance. They should either play a big role, or a very small role; not a mild halfway role.

All in all, Lost Hope was an excellent game and ranks high on my list of favorite fangames.

Also, loss.

mucka33 · Oct 27, 2020

Just played through the game, and what a fun little adventure it was! Lots of underlying sad motifs, and by the end I really just wanted to give Hope a hug ;-;

Loved all the little tileset additions, and the enemies were a nice touch (and very OFF-reminiscent, which is fantastic!) Shadow Man really caught me off guard for how creepy it was. So overall, really really great!

My only complaint is that I think the dark hallway maze still softlocks you if you return? I went back later because I missed some items there, but couldn't find a way back out. Both the entrance door and the hole to the basement do nothing. Kinda stings because I missed a candy there, so I suppose I'll have to start a new save file and try again.

Anyways, minor gripes aside, I had a lot of fun playing through the game! Thanks for creating it.

_pheebs · Oct 28, 2020

mucka33 said:
Just played through the game, and what a fun little adventure it was! Lots of underlying sad motifs, and by the end I really just wanted to give Hope a hug ;-;

Loved all the little tileset additions, and the enemies were a nice touch (and very OFF-reminiscent, which is fantastic!) Shadow Man really caught me off guard for how creepy it was. So overall, really really great!

My only complaint is that I think the dark hallway maze still softlocks you if you return? I went back later because I missed some items there, but couldn't find a way back out. Both the entrance door and the hole to the basement do nothing. Kinda stings because I missed a candy there, so I suppose I'll have to start a new save file and try again.

Anyways, minor gripes aside, I had a lot of fun playing through the game! Thanks for creating it.

I have now fixed the clay corridor.
I thought I already had, but it seems I went to, but never did.

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mucka33 · Oct 28, 2020

Thanks for the fix! I just went through a new file and used the candy guide, so we're all good now.

Gotta say the fight with Jack was really neat! And also sad...though I'm glad to see he gets a happy ending along with Hope. That good ending made me tear up. Really worth the effort to get all the candies!

Once again, what a fun little game and I'm impressed that it all came together in about a month!

_pheebs · Oct 28, 2020

mucka33 said:
Thanks for the fix! I just went through a new file and used the candy guide, so we're all good now.

Gotta say the fight with Jack was really neat! And also sad...though I'm glad to see he gets a happy ending along with Hope. That good ending made me tear up. Really worth the effort to get all the candies!

Once again, what a fun little game and I'm impressed that it all came together in about a month!

Thanks for playing! I'm glad you enjoyed and got emotional over the themes~!

Ickle · May 21, 2022

hey I just figured out the you can evolve the meowth and I'm assuming you're not supposed to cuz it doesn't have a custom sprite

Ickle · May 21, 2022

also theres no collision in the station apart from the characters

also in the end it says "good end" but how do you get the bad end exactly?

quentix · Mar 16, 2023

meowth had the pickup ability and gave me a great ball lol just caught a ghost with it XDD

also i cant open the door where there is a diamond symbol since i found chairs in the water draining office. i was able to find the two other things the vase and painting but the chair dosent seems to have any interaction... am i doin something wrong??

nvm. managed to finish the game close to an hour! :3

Completed Lost Hope v1.2 (Clay Corridor Fix)

_pheebs

Demoness on the prowl!

Ekat

That One Guy's GF

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KennyCatches

can he catch his w's?

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TheGamingPaladin

TheGamingPaladin - Youtuber, Foodie, Gamer 4 Life

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NurseEthi

Novice

_pheebs

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NurseEthi

Novice

Marin

Moderator

mucka33

Rookie

_pheebs

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Dropbox

mucka33

Rookie

_pheebs

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Ickle

Trainer

Ickle

Trainer

quentix

Cooltrainer