Released Pokemon Golden Sun / Silver Moon Demo

Pokemonninja · Oct 12, 2022

It look so good

Edit: My game crash can you give me a link so I can fix it

deoxysacid · Oct 12, 2022

Did you open the trainer card? That's the only game breaking bug I know of

omega · Oct 12, 2022

Pokemonninja said:
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I'm not the dev, but this could be a problem with playing the game on Joy Play that is not seen on the intended playing method which is PC

catchneko · Oct 13, 2022

(I'm writing this as I play the game, so it's gonna be messy)

The game's pretty fun but if a bit of constructive criticism and bug reporting is okay, the Pokédex area map crashes the game and neither of the gates in Route 49 seem to work despite the game suggesting that they're supposed to (I walked right on top of the southern one :/). If they're incomplete and not intended to be walked through in the demo, I'd suggest putting an NPC or something mentioning that specifically for the demo.

Not only that the music seems all over the place. The route theme was playing in the Olivine Pokémon Center for whatever reason? The Violet City Gym just just plays the normal city theme? And... is the route supposed to not have its own music? It keeps playing the Olivine/Violet City theme.
And none of the trainers have any unique music, which is a little boring. Fighting Falkner to the basic HGSS Kanto trainer theme was pretty lame.

Actually going and looking at the game, the map direction is a little confusing, and the proper way to go is not quite made apparent to the player at first.

It could be a little more apparent that the proper way to go is through this fence and that the gates lead somewhere the player isn't meant to go to at that point in the game.

also nooooooo Herbert can't keep up with me (but you already mentioned this being a known thing) :(

I'm not sure how many of the collision bugs are known to you but I'll just post all the ones I found here. (Ledges seem to be 4-way, which defeats the point of them?)

Falkner Gym
Falkner Gym
Anyway back to the actual game, it's really fun, and pretty well-balanced. It takes a lot of the grindiness that the original Johto games had away at least. The encounter variety early game is pretty mid, at least from what I've seen. It just seems mostly to be standard early game Johto fare but a bit worse, with Mareep being the only thing that counters Gym 1 (maybe add Geodude or something?). Are there places besides Route 49 to encounter wild Pokemon prior to Falkner? And are those mons better than basically being stuck with Pidgey, Rattata, Caterpie, Weedle, Oddish, Sentret, and Mareep?
Some of the trainers are annoyances for reasons they shouldn't be. Spearow wiping my team with Fury Attack was not fun, neither was Hoothoot soaking up hits and setting up Echoed Voice to murder anything in its way without remorse.
Also please let me buy Antidotes and Paralyze Heals before badge 1

Moving onto Route 31, the encounters don't get much better. The only new mons are Bellsprout, Ledyba, and Spinarak, but the player already has access to Oddish, Butterfree, and Beedrill by this point. Dark Cave seems unavailable as of yet, so I'm assuming we're stuck with not very much mon variety.
And then Route 30 has the exact same Pokemon.

That's okay, my gang has got this.

Following down Route 29, the encounter variety, again, doesn't go up very high. I don't care for Paras or Hoppip on top of the two other grass types I could catch earlier, with still nothing else BUT normal, grass, bug and flying types.
Plus Gastly at night. That's nice at least.

And Route 46 is inaccessible. Darn. My only other chance at Geodude foiled.

YOU MOCK ME.

Shut up. I am funny.
Minor bug: If you do the thing where you keep pissing him off and he fights you and you lose (I did not because I'm good at the game and amazing and Penny swept the whole fight shoutout to @Penny55gg they're amazing and based), you briefly warp to a pokemon center and then back into the overworld, and next time you visit a pokemon center you get automatically healed the moment you walk in.

Also edgeboy got stuck here.
Only finally on Route 36 do you get some varied encounters: The Nidos, Growlithe/Vulpix, and Stantler too ig.

Weird offset when healing mons.

5 Gastly lady in Morty's gym was not necessary. It was already stupid in the original games but it was Gym 4 in the original games and they made a ton of bad decisions. I don't want to fight 5 Level 14-15 Gastly. Especially not at what is now Gym 2.

This is my team. It isn't able to handle Gastly spam very well, and due to the absence of Fearow, Drowzee, Kadabra, Umbreon, etc the player could usually have at Morty's gym in GSC/HGSS, it just ends up being annoying instead of remotely challenging (also STILL no Misdreavus???? damn everyone hates the johto ghost :( )

Morty's fight itself is where the bad encounter variety begins to show. You give the player a bunch of bug, grass, and normal types and little else, and make them fight a ghost gym with a LITWICK of all things.

The dialogue portraits are really nice-looking and very expressive, though. I like them! I had been planning on implementing dialogue portraits of my own in a future game of mine after my current WIP is done.
The new characters are really interesting and unique (Gale's funny I like him) and the returning characters have some cool new designs. I like the story so far and I definitely will play the full version when it comes out.

Anyway that was my big giant post about this game. Overall it's a little rough around the edges but definitely a fun experience.

Tomix9tomix · Oct 13, 2022

Hello! I played through the demo on stream and just thought I'd leave my thoughts:

I had fun playing through this demo! I find games which revisit cannon locations and characters really interesting, and it is cool seeing what they do with them. And this game was no exception. The favourite thing about this game for me would have to be the characters and the character interactions. Seeing Eusicune and Morty bicker like boyfriends, getting attacked by Silver and his Ho-oh. Blue's cool professor redesign. All really cool stuff, and I actually enjoyed the original characters a lot too. They were fun!

That being said, I feel like this game need a lot more polish. I encountered a lot of bugs and things that just felt odd. A lot of passability didn't work, like being able to jump up ledges or walk on walls. Some transfer events felt oddly placed. A lot of the map design feels like it should be tightened up. There were so many paths in the game that you aren't allowed to go down. The game doesn't tell you that it is blocked, you just literally can't go certain ways for some reason. And in general the towns all felt rather empty, part of this having to do with the fact that most houses don't have interiors, you just walk into the door and nothing happens.

I think this game is really fun and promising, however I think before you go on to make new content, it is worth making sure that the existing areas feel finished and fleshed out. I look forward to what is to come.

laherag · Oct 13, 2022

is there some sort of dev mode I can use for when I get stuck? I'm at the place where catchneko said "edgeboy got stuck", but my game is saved in that spot, I don't know of any way to get out of it

catchneko · Oct 13, 2022

laherag said:
is there some sort of dev mode I can use for when I get stuck? I'm at the place where catchneko said "edgeboy got stuck", but my game is saved in that spot, I don't know of any way to get out of it

I solved it by opening up the game in RPG Maker and playing it in debug mode through playtesting specifically in case I got softlocked that way. Pressing Ctrl (the walk through walls button) fixed it.

I believe you'd need to have RPG Maker XP to do this yourself though.

deoxysacid · Oct 13, 2022

laherag said:
is there some sort of dev mode I can use for when I get stuck? I'm at the place where catchneko said "edgeboy got stuck", but my game is saved in that spot, I don't know of any way to get out of it

Are you playing V1.0.2 or 1.0.3?

Nutcase71733 · Nov 24, 2022

I guess TMs wont be reusable in this game?

EDIT: Also what gen are the movepools of all pokemon at? I presume at least gen 7 given Gladion is who you play as, but I wanna be sure since I got a pretty good hoothoot which I would like to breed, but for it to get Night Shade it would need to be gen 8 move standards at least.

safr · Nov 24, 2022

I encounter some bug my first is when i open my trainer card the other is music but other than that i love how you use the heart gold esque graphics and the character portrait make the game more exciting, i also love the story beginning. So thank you for this demo and be safe and stay healthy

LilyInTheWater · Mar 2, 2023

Can you please put a heal machine in New Bark Town? My pokemon are on the verge of death and I had to piss off Silver into teleporting me to the nearest pokemon center and taking 240 pokedollars from my wallet so I could get healing.

sattymon · Mar 3, 2023

Can we catch a froakie? Whose final evolution has the battle bond ability?

maxexe147 · Jul 24, 2023

nice game keep it up

Released Pokemon Golden Sun / Silver Moon Demo

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Pokemonninja

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deoxysacid

Novice

omega

The Pilkining is Soon. . .

catchneko

average goomy enjoyer

Tomix9tomix

The beetle is waking up

laherag

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catchneko

average goomy enjoyer

deoxysacid

Novice

Nutcase71733

Cooltrainer

safr

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LilyInTheWater

Novice

sattymon

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maxexe147

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Released Pokemon Golden Sun / Silver Moon Demo

About​

Screenshots​

​

Planned Features​

Known Bugs​

Download​

Credits (in no particular order)​

CHANGELOG​

Trainer

Novice

The Pilkining is Soon. . .

average goomy enjoyer

The beetle is waking up

Rookie

average goomy enjoyer

Novice

Cooltrainer

Elite Trainer

Novice

Rookie

Rookie

About

Screenshots

Planned Features

Known Bugs

Download

Credits (in no particular order)

CHANGELOG