Completed Pokémon: Giovanni Origins [JOHTO - OUT NOW!]

UltimateNPC · Feb 28, 2023

This game looks super interesting! I wanna download it, but the download link takes me to Pokémon Split v0.0.6 instead. Is that a grammar error, or the entirely wrong file?

DaleFails · Feb 28, 2023

UltimateNPC said:
This game looks super interesting! I wanna download it, but the download link takes me to Pokémon Split v0.0.6 instead. Is that a grammar error, or the entirely wrong file?

Looks like I linked to my old project! Whoops!

Linked is fixed.

I promise the game is less buggy than my linking of files

UltimateNPC · Mar 1, 2023

For a demo labelled v0.0.1, I expected a lot less than what we got. I'm a big sucker for games like this, and I had a wonderful time playing it. I've got a lot of praise for it, and just a few small-ish criticisms, but all in all, I'm very excited to see where this project goes, and wish you all the best with it!

I appreciate all the little references and the sheer amount of flavour text.
The colour palette feels depressing at first, but after a few minutes, I was already used to it and rather fond of it.
I don't know how you managed to blend graphics and music from Gen 1/2 and 3, and still made it all look pretty consistent, but you did, and it's excellent! I'm sure the palette probably benefitted that too, which makes it an even smarter move.
I also LOVE that I'm not just playing the role of some random go-getter trainer who's witnessing Giovanni's rise like a flat line of a story; I even named my character Silver, because just off of the intro alone, I got the impression that this character plays an important and memorable role in Giovanni's history, and I liked the thought that he may have named his child after them!
I appreciate the little bits of QoL added to the routes such as reduced trainers and a couple of healers, to compensate for what would be mid-late game areas now being early-game instead, it made things feel far less overwhelming and time-consuming, and much more enjoyable to play.
Oh, and also, I like that Johto's gonna be included here in full, Johto doesn't get nearly as much love these days, and I've always wanted a Gen 3 Johto to explore, so I can't wait for that either!

There are a couple of character references that feel like great ideas, but that also seem a little inconsistent. Most notably, a few characters who I feel would probably be a bit older than they appear here, such as Lt. Surge, who's only a youngster who'd just enlisted in the army, while in the official games, it feels very much like the impression is that he's a 40-50 year old war veteran of some sorts, though that might just be my personal interpretation or my memory being fuzzy. I can't name anyone else off the top of my head, but Surge is probably the biggest outlier of this issue.
While the pots and being able to interact with all of them are a very nice touch, I do feel like you went a tad overboard with the quantity, especially in the Pokémon Tower. They are fun, but the time it takes to check every one of them does eventually add up, especially with the pause in the middle of the event every time.
I do worry a little that this game will eventually involve a lot of backtracking, based on the sheer amount of inaccessible areas behind cut trees. This isn't necessarily a big issue, though it does beg the question as to why two gyms are beatable, and yet no HMs (or whatever the alternative to HMs may be) are accessible at all, yet.

In Vermillion Town, at the edge of the path near the Pokémon Centre, you can see a bit of the off-screen void. This could use some filling. As far as I could see, nowhere else in the game so far had this issue.
Also, this is nothing particularly unique to your game, but I recommend adding a speed-up/fast-forward/turbo-mode plugin! It's not a deal-breaker by any means, but it's very beneficial for particular parts of any game that feel rather slow otherwise, especially Pokémon battles. I believe the best speed-up key is usually the one that's just toggleable on and off, but there's also the version with different levels of speed, if you wind up preferring that. Either way, again, not a big deal, but something that'd definitely be nice to have.
Lastly, I noticed a distinct lack of TMs so far. I get that progression is probably slower since there's two whole regions now with 16 gyms in total, but I do think that that's not a reason to reduce the amount of available TMs. This may be me and I'm just dreaming, but I explored as much as I could, and by the end of my playthrough, I only had two TMs, one being a status move. It'd be cool if there were at least a few more to find. Some more holdable items would be neat too, but that's just my personal opinion.

If you do read this, thanks again!

DaleFails · Mar 2, 2023

UltimateNPC said:
For a demo labelled v0.0.1, I expected a lot less than what we got. I'm a big sucker for games like this, and I had a wonderful time playing it. I've got a lot of praise for it, and just a few small-ish criticisms, but all in all, I'm very excited to see where this project goes, and wish you all the best with it!

I appreciate all the little references and the sheer amount of flavour text.

The colour palette feels depressing at first, but after a few minutes, I was already used to it and rather fond of it.

I don't know how you managed to blend graphics and music from Gen 1/2 and 3, and still made it all look pretty consistent, but you did, and it's excellent! I'm sure the palette probably benefitted that too, which makes it an even smarter move.

I also LOVE that I'm not just playing the role of some random go-getter trainer who's witnessing Giovanni's rise like a flat line of a story; I even named my character Silver, because just off of the intro alone, I got the impression that this character plays an important and memorable role in Giovanni's history, and I liked the thought that he may have named his child after them!

I appreciate the little bits of QoL added to the routes such as reduced trainers and a couple of healers, to compensate for what would be mid-late game areas now being early-game instead, it made things feel far less overwhelming and time-consuming, and much more enjoyable to play.

Oh, and also, I like that Johto's gonna be included here in full, Johto doesn't get nearly as much love these days, and I've always wanted a Gen 3 Johto to explore, so I can't wait for that either!

There are a couple of character references that feel like great ideas, but that also seem a little inconsistent. Most notably, a few characters who I feel would probably be a bit older than they appear here, such as Lt. Surge, who's only a youngster who'd just enlisted in the army, while in the official games, it feels very much like the impression is that he's a 40-50 year old war veteran of some sorts, though that might just be my personal interpretation or my memory being fuzzy. I can't name anyone else off the top of my head, but Surge is probably the biggest outlier of this issue.

While the pots and being able to interact with all of them are a very nice touch, I do feel like you went a tad overboard with the quantity, especially in the Pokémon Tower. They are fun, but the time it takes to check every one of them does eventually add up, especially with the pause in the middle of the event every time.

I do worry a little that this game will eventually involve a lot of backtracking, based on the sheer amount of inaccessible areas behind cut trees. This isn't necessarily a big issue, though it does beg the question as to why two gyms are beatable, and yet no HMs (or whatever the alternative to HMs may be) are accessible at all, yet.

In Vermillion Town, at the edge of the path near the Pokémon Centre, you can see a bit of the off-screen void. This could use some filling. As far as I could see, nowhere else in the game so far had this issue.

Also, this is nothing particularly unique to your game, but I recommend adding a speed-up/fast-forward/turbo-mode plugin! It's not a deal-breaker by any means, but it's very beneficial for particular parts of any game that feel rather slow otherwise, especially Pokémon battles. I believe the best speed-up key is usually the one that's just toggleable on and off, but there's also the version with different levels of speed, if you wind up preferring that. Either way, again, not a big deal, but something that'd definitely be nice to have.

Lastly, I noticed a distinct lack of TMs so far. I get that progression is probably slower since there's two whole regions now with 16 gyms in total, but I do think that that's not a reason to reduce the amount of available TMs. This may be me and I'm just dreaming, but I explored as much as I could, and by the end of my playthrough, I only had two TMs, one being a status move. It'd be cool if there were at least a few more to find. Some more holdable items would be neat too, but that's just my personal opinion.

If you do read this, thanks again!

Wow, this is some fantastic feedback and opinion, thank you so much for this.

To respond to a few of the points:

- I completely agree that the age of some future characters such as Surge, Misty etc will be off. Technically I think Misty in about 10 years old, so she shouldn't exist, but it's fun to include them in some manner. I may revisit Surge's age as I agree you would think he is a young man, rather than a kid!

- Lack of TMs, I completely agree! I noticed this during my playtest after I had released the demo, so I will be adjusting this.

- Speed up buton sounds like a great addition, I didn't know it existed!

- I'm glad you noticed the reduced trainers on the long routes and commented on that, I didn't want the game to be a total drag on these routes full of generic trainers.

Thanks again for the feedback, I really appreciate it and appreciate you playing the demo!

DaleFails · Apr 6, 2023

Announcement - v0.1.1 released!

Game is playable up to Gym 5. That's over half of Kanto complete!

UltimateNPC · Apr 8, 2023

It is genuinely baffling to me that this game isn't more popular than it is. It's really a lot of fun! The flavour text, small and big changes, etc. all do wonders for a fresh Kanto experience. I was thrilled to see the game updated, and I had a great time playing it! I really appreciate you taking aboard my earlier feedback.

I also have some bits of new feedback to give on the new update:

I like the little intervals where the player speaks to the officer to-whom the entire story is being recapped to, though I feel like the moment where he says "big things coming in Giovanni's story" was a tad on the nose. Other than that, those were a lovely touch!
The changes to the routes to compensate for the different order of events continues to be appreciated, though I think that it'd be good if the level curve could be a bit steeper. Other than the Easter egg battle at the end of the demo, as well as Blaine's gym if I remember correctly, none of the NPCs really gave me much challenge, as I was heavily over-levelled, and I haven't been grinding, all I did was fight every trainer and the occasional, but uncommon, wild encounter.
I'm enjoying the escalation of Giovanni's criminal tendencies, especially the moment with Blaine, it's intriguing to watch him get desperate and aggressive, and I'm fascinated to see if you'll show how he goes from that to the cold, collected overlord of a boss that he is in the games.
Some of the unique sprite-work is really enjoyable to look at!
Loving the subtle toning down of the pots, haha!

It kinda weirded me out that so many one-appearance characters had unique sprites, yet Prof. Oak didn't. I'm not sure if his current sprite is meant to just be a placeholder, but if not, it does feel a bit unfair, considering how important Oak is, compared to, say, the individual gym leaders.
My concern with backtracking is still present, to be honest. I overestimated how many trees there were to cut, and it only took a couple of minutes to sweep over all of the accessible areas for previously-unreachable items using Cut and Surf, but there's also the Seafoam Islands segment. I'm not sure if you intentionally are keeping that closed off for a later story beat of some sort, but considering that area was only used to extend the original game's route that you opened up, it does sort-of reinforce that this game's style of navigation is a little messy... especially without the Fly HM, which makes a huge difference to how linear Kanto feels in general.

The route to the immediate right of Celadon (Route 18 I think?) is supposed to have wild encounters, but for some reason, it wouldn't let me get a single wild encounter.
To the immediate left of Fuschia City, where the last demo ended, if you surf by the bottom right corner of the water, you can travel across a line leading down to the void at the bottom of the map. The straightness of the line to go there also kinda makes it look like an intentional secret.
The update states that the Safari Zone, but as of travelling to Cinnabar Island (I didn't backtrack once I went there), I still couldn't access it. Am I missing anything?

I'm not sure what you have planned already, but I feel like this game would benefit from an increased amount of side missions, now that we're five gyms in. Everything else that I can do all seems to be either talking to a singular NPC to be given an item or a Pokémon, or stuff that turns out to be story-related and mandatory. The only mission that I could find that probably counts as a side mission is the Rocket Gang above Lavender Town, and that's only because Lapras isn't the only Pokémon that can learn surf. Unless of course, you actually need to complete that to continue, but I wouldn't know. That, and trading, seem to be the only additional things I have access to, not to mention the removed game corner. The main story is still really fun, don't get me wrong, but some more tasks for smaller rewards would be incredibly beneficial for the experience, in my opinion.
It'd be cool if there was a way to make money a little faster? I'm five gyms in and still have to be very careful with what I purchase, as I only have a few thousand Pokédollars. I haven't paid enough attention to tell if this is just because of the reduced trainers for the time-being, or the rewards for battles being lower, or anything else, but yeah, some extra way to get cash would be cool, perhaps more items to sell. I believe I only found one Stardust so far, don't think I found anything else.

All in all, this game's still as thrilling as ever, and I can't wait to see what comes next. You continue to amaze me with the abundance of content that one wouldn't expect out of the first few demos of a 16-gym game. Best of luck to you again!

DaleFails · Apr 14, 2023

UltimateNPC said:
It is genuinely baffling to me that this game isn't more popular than it is. It's really a lot of fun! The flavour text, small and big changes, etc. all do wonders for a fresh Kanto experience. I was thrilled to see the game updated, and I had a great time playing it! I really appreciate you taking aboard my earlier feedback.

I also have some bits of new feedback to give on the new update:

I like the little intervals where the player speaks to the officer to-whom the entire story is being recapped to, though I feel like the moment where he says "big things coming in Giovanni's story" was a tad on the nose. Other than that, those were a lovely touch!

The changes to the routes to compensate for the different order of events continues to be appreciated, though I think that it'd be good if the level curve could be a bit steeper. Other than the Easter egg battle at the end of the demo, as well as Blaine's gym if I remember correctly, none of the NPCs really gave me much challenge, as I was heavily over-levelled, and I haven't been grinding, all I did was fight every trainer and the occasional, but uncommon, wild encounter.

I'm enjoying the escalation of Giovanni's criminal tendencies, especially the moment with Blaine, it's intriguing to watch him get desperate and aggressive, and I'm fascinated to see if you'll show how he goes from that to the cold, collected overlord of a boss that he is in the games.

Some of the unique sprite-work is really enjoyable to look at!

Loving the subtle toning down of the pots, haha!

It kinda weirded me out that so many one-appearance characters had unique sprites, yet Prof. Oak didn't. I'm not sure if his current sprite is meant to just be a placeholder, but if not, it does feel a bit unfair, considering how important Oak is, compared to, say, the individual gym leaders.

My concern with backtracking is still present, to be honest. I overestimated how many trees there were to cut, and it only took a couple of minutes to sweep over all of the accessible areas for previously-unreachable items using Cut and Surf, but there's also the Seafoam Islands segment. I'm not sure if you intentionally are keeping that closed off for a later story beat of some sort, but considering that area was only used to extend the original game's route that you opened up, it does sort-of reinforce that this game's style of navigation is a little messy... especially without the Fly HM, which makes a huge difference to how linear Kanto feels in general.

The route to the immediate right of Celadon (Route 18 I think?) is supposed to have wild encounters, but for some reason, it wouldn't let me get a single wild encounter.

To the immediate left of Fuschia City, where the last demo ended, if you surf by the bottom right corner of the water, you can travel across a line leading down to the void at the bottom of the map. The straightness of the line to go there also kinda makes it look like an intentional secret.

The update states that the Safari Zone, but as of travelling to Cinnabar Island (I didn't backtrack once I went there), I still couldn't access it. Am I missing anything?

I'm not sure what you have planned already, but I feel like this game would benefit from an increased amount of side missions, now that we're five gyms in. Everything else that I can do all seems to be either talking to a singular NPC to be given an item or a Pokémon, or stuff that turns out to be story-related and mandatory. The only mission that I could find that probably counts as a side mission is the Rocket Gang above Lavender Town, and that's only because Lapras isn't the only Pokémon that can learn surf. Unless of course, you actually need to complete that to continue, but I wouldn't know. That, and trading, seem to be the only additional things I have access to, not to mention the removed game corner. The main story is still really fun, don't get me wrong, but some more tasks for smaller rewards would be incredibly beneficial for the experience, in my opinion.

It'd be cool if there was a way to make money a little faster? I'm five gyms in and still have to be very careful with what I purchase, as I only have a few thousand Pokédollars. I haven't paid enough attention to tell if this is just because of the reduced trainers for the time-being, or the rewards for battles being lower, or anything else, but yeah, some extra way to get cash would be cool, perhaps more items to sell. I believe I only found one Stardust so far, don't think I found anything else.

All in all, this game's still as thrilling as ever, and I can't wait to see what comes next. You continue to amaze me with the abundance of content that one wouldn't expect out of the first few demos of a 16-gym game. Best of luck to you again!

I've got to say, I really appreciate the kind words. I don't really have any major ways of marketing this game to the community, and I certainly haven't done enough of that, but maybe I should! Also, your feedback was invaluable from the first time around. It has certainly influenced a lot of the game so far in terms of playability. Now, on to your latest feedback....!

Prof Oak sprite - largely me just being lazy at that point, and this pre-existing sprite seemed to fit. I'm not sprite artist, but I will try and get Oak something unique lined up for sure!

The pots - Yes I made a conscious effort to reduce those, glad you noticed, haha!

Level Curve - this is so difficult to manage. I am going to look at introducing gym-based level caps for the next release, to at least prevent over-levelling. Every time I do a test playthrough I use a different party. Sometimes I steamroll the game, other times I encounter a bit of challenge. I'll take another look at this.

Backtracking - I'm not too concerned here. I think most players tend to only go back to the Cut-trees and Surf areas once they have Fly, so it doesn't become a total chore. Fly is in the game, but you missed it (I'll come on to that!)

Money - I always end up absolutely stonking rich! If I get a level cap introduced, I will insert repayable trainers where you can grind for XP, Money, or both without over levelling!

Side Quests - now, this is the big one. And I certainly made some efforts to put more of these in. You found the Rocket Gang Lapras encounter, which is good and entirely optional. Another big side quest is what gains you access to the Safari Zone. If you speak to the Safari Warden in Fuchsia City, he will complain of toothache. Another Fuchsia resident mentions a Medicine Shop in Celadon City. If you speak to the warden, visit the shop, and then go back to the Warden, you get a Safari Pass! This is where you will also find the HM for Fly. Another sidequest, in a sense, is that on Route 11 you will find a young boy who has had his beloved Spearow stolen from him. If you return the Spearow (or Fearow, hint hint) to him, you get the TM for Return.

I have tried to make the side quests less 'on-the-nose', and make them more like the obscure objectives in the original games. I certainly wish to add more, as they add so much flavour to the in-game world.

If you continued from your previous game, I would encourage a full restart, as I changed and improved a lot of the original demo, as well as adding the new content.

Thanks again for the valuable feedback, and if you know anybody else who would enjoy the game, or anywhere I can promote it, please shout!

I will get to work fixing the issues you listed above. Great job on those!

UltimateNPC · Apr 14, 2023

DaleFails said:
I've got to say, I really appreciate the kind words. I don't really have any major ways of marketing this game to the community, and I certainly haven't done enough of that, but maybe I should! Also, your feedback was invaluable from the first time around. It has certainly influenced a lot of the game so far in terms of playability. Now, on to your latest feedback....!

Prof Oak sprite - largely me just being lazy at that point, and this pre-existing sprite seemed to fit. I'm not sprite artist, but I will try and get Oak something unique lined up for sure!

The pots - Yes I made a conscious effort to reduce those, glad you noticed, haha!

Level Curve - this is so difficult to manage. I am going to look at introducing gym-based level caps for the next release, to at least prevent over-levelling. Every time I do a test playthrough I use a different party. Sometimes I steamroll the game, other times I encounter a bit of challenge. I'll take another look at this.

Backtracking - I'm not too concerned here. I think most players tend to only go back to the Cut-trees and Surf areas once they have Fly, so it doesn't become a total chore. Fly is in the game, but you missed it (I'll come on to that!)

Money - I always end up absolutely stonking rich! If I get a level cap introduced, I will insert repayable trainers where you can grind for XP, Money, or both without over levelling!

Side Quests - now, this is the big one. And I certainly made some efforts to put more of these in. You found the Rocket Gang Lapras encounter, which is good and entirely optional. Another big side quest is what gains you access to the Safari Zone. If you speak to the Safari Warden in Fuchsia City, he will complain of toothache. Another Fuchsia resident mentions a Medicine Shop in Celadon City. If you speak to the warden, visit the shop, and then go back to the Warden, you get a Safari Pass! This is where you will also find the HM for Fly. Another sidequest, in a sense, is that on Route 11 you will find a young boy who has had his beloved Spearow stolen from him. If you return the Spearow (or Fearow, hint hint) to him, you get the TM for Return.

I have tried to make the side quests less 'on-the-nose', and make them more like the obscure objectives in the original games. I certainly wish to add more, as they add so much flavour to the in-game world.

If you continued from your previous game, I would encourage a full restart, as I changed and improved a lot of the original demo, as well as adding the new content.

Thanks again for the valuable feedback, and if you know anybody else who would enjoy the game, or anywhere I can promote it, please shout!

I will get to work fixing the issues you listed above. Great job on those!

Thank you for the detailed reply, I'll keep all of this in mind.
One thing to note, though, I'm pretty sure gym-based level caps don't really go down well with players, given the reaction to Let's Go doing something like that, but if you want to install level caps at all, might I suggest a soft level cap that gradually rises after each gym? I know a few games that do this, it's a much fairer challenge, in my opinion.
Thanks for the help on the side quests, hahah! Glad I was proven wrong on that.
I'm really happy I've been able to help you, best of luck with continuing development!

Amallah · Apr 15, 2023

Hey hey, I played this for a bit today just past Pokémon Tower, and I love the feel of the game so far! There's a good variety of Pokémon for people to teambuild with, and the story fits how I'd imagine Giovanni's character when he was young. Got some feedback and just one or two very small bugs that don't hinder gameplay much/at all:

Some of the signs in Saffron and in the routes around it aren't interact-able, as if they're just blank.
When climbing up the first set of stairs in Pokémon Tower, the player turns left at the last frame. Removing the "Turn Left" that I assume is at the end of the move route should fix it.

This one's probably less of a bug and more of an oversight, so I'm throwing this under feedback. At the very beginning of the game, the Pokémon Center in Saffron City will "heal" your Pokémon even when you haven't gotten one yet. Some dialogue here about not having a Pokemon yet, or not being a medical office for people, would be a nice addition.
Gloom being the assistant healer in the Lavender Town Pokémon Center was a nice touch!
The posters and bookshelf in the Pokémon Fan Club could use some interactions to give off the feel that it's a club for Pokémon.
I'm not sure if this is a design choice based on what type of sign it is, but there's some inconsistency between signs that you can only interact with by bumping into them (player touch, I believe?), and signs that you can both press the action button and bump into them to interact with them. It'd be nice if all the signs had both methods of interaction. You can find some of these signs in Vermillion City and Route 8 if I remember right, but can go back and find.
I liked the added touch of Giovanni's Meowth's stats increasing throughout the Pokémon Tower battle. That was a mechanic in one generation of the official games that I wished appeared more frequently for more of a challenge.
Like UltimateNPC, I also found myself over-leveled compared to regular Trainers despite not grinding for it, without using the Exp. Share you get early on even. As you said it's definitely hard to balance so I won't harp on it :)

I'll definitely be playing more of it and will add more thoughts after finishing the demo. Awesome work on this!

DaleFails · Apr 15, 2023

v0.1.2 Released

Includes several bug fixes

DaleFails · Apr 16, 2023

Announcement - v0.1.3 released

New release fixes a few bugs and tweaks a few things, however it does add Route 1, Viridian City, Route 22 and Route 2, as well as a major story event!

Amallah · Apr 24, 2023

ZeroConquest said:
The game isn't working for me, it looks amazing though. I have "My boy" "Joiplay" and "zarchiver" "rar" I have loads of other games so I don't get what I'm doing wrong?

Have you followed the tutorial for playing Essentials games on Joiplay?

https://eeveeexpo.com/resources/1261/

ZeroConquest · Apr 24, 2023

Amallah said:
Have you followed the tutorial for playing Essentials games on Joiplay?

https://eeveeexpo.com/resources/1261/

I sorted it now. Thanks.

When the game gets a new patch can we carry on with our saved game or do we have to start all over?

Amallah · Apr 24, 2023

ZeroConquest said:
I sorted it now. Thanks.

When the game gets a new patch can we carry on with our saved game or do we have to start all over?

No problem! On PC the save file is stored elsewhere, so updating the game doesn't affect the save file at all. I don't see why it'd be any different on Android, but I don't know that for sure as I don't play on Android.

DaleFails · Apr 25, 2023

Amallah said:
Hey hey, I played this for a bit today just past Pokémon Tower, and I love the feel of the game so far! There's a good variety of Pokémon for people to teambuild with, and the story fits how I'd imagine Giovanni's character when he was young. Got some feedback and just one or two very small bugs that don't hinder gameplay much/at all:

Some of the signs in Saffron and in the routes around it aren't interact-able, as if they're just blank.

When climbing up the first set of stairs in Pokémon Tower, the player turns left at the last frame. Removing the "Turn Left" that I assume is at the end of the move route should fix it.

This one's probably less of a bug and more of an oversight, so I'm throwing this under feedback. At the very beginning of the game, the Pokémon Center in Saffron City will "heal" your Pokémon even when you haven't gotten one yet. Some dialogue here about not having a Pokemon yet, or not being a medical office for people, would be a nice addition.

Gloom being the assistant healer in the Lavender Town Pokémon Center was a nice touch!

The posters and bookshelf in the Pokémon Fan Club could use some interactions to give off the feel that it's a club for Pokémon.

I'm not sure if this is a design choice based on what type of sign it is, but there's some inconsistency between signs that you can only interact with by bumping into them (player touch, I believe?), and signs that you can both press the action button and bump into them to interact with them. It'd be nice if all the signs had both methods of interaction. You can find some of these signs in Vermillion City and Route 8 if I remember right, but can go back and find.

I liked the added touch of Giovanni's Meowth's stats increasing throughout the Pokémon Tower battle. That was a mechanic in one generation of the official games that I wished appeared more frequently for more of a challenge.

Like UltimateNPC, I also found myself over-leveled compared to regular Trainers despite not grinding for it, without using the Exp. Share you get early on even. As you said it's definitely hard to balance so I won't harp on it :)

I'll definitely be playing more of it and will add more thoughts after finishing the demo. Awesome work on this!

Thank you so much for the feedback, it’s really helpful! And thanks for playing mostly :)

The signs are a weird one - they are all set to Player Touch, but I think I’m going to change that.

On the other feedback, I’ll look into each and every point and try address for the next release.

Thanks again!

Amallah · Apr 25, 2023

DaleFails said:
Thank you so much for the feedback, it’s really helpful! And thanks for playing mostly :)

The signs are a weird one - they are all set to Player Touch, but I think I’m going to change that.

On the other feedback, I’ll look into each and every point and try address for the next release.

Thanks again!

Sure thing! I've actually forgotten to post a few more things from when I continued playing on the 15th, though I'm not sure if your update on the 16th fixed any of these. I'll post them just in case:

Typos:

Lady in front of Celadon Department Store, "pease" -> please
Celadon Department Store NPC on evolution stones floor, "awesone" -> awesome
Celadon lady that needs the squirtbottle, "halth" -> health
Cinnabar Pokémon Lab egg lady, "at the Day Cared at" -> not sure what she was trying to say
Blaine's father in the Cinnabar mansion, "famaily" -> family
Thief/burglar in the Cinnabar mansion, "absoloute" -> absolute

Miscellaneous:

NPC in Pokémon Mansion can't be reached, blocked off by books on the ground. I believe this is on the top floor, took a break after spotting it so not 100% sure.
A house in Celadon that looks like it was robbed has a police officer inside. The officer asks "You took on the Rocket Gang?" though I haven't reached a part of the story where I've battled the Rocket Gang, so I think this house is accessible a bit too early.

DaleFails · May 23, 2023

Amallah said:
Sure thing! I've actually forgotten to post a few more things from when I continued playing on the 15th, though I'm not sure if your update on the 16th fixed any of these. I'll post them just in case:

Typos:

Lady in front of Celadon Department Store, "pease" -> please

Celadon Department Store NPC on evolution stones floor, "awesone" -> awesome

Celadon lady that needs the squirtbottle, "halth" -> health

Cinnabar Pokémon Lab egg lady, "at the Day Cared at" -> not sure what she was trying to say

Blaine's father in the Cinnabar mansion, "famaily" -> family

Thief/burglar in the Cinnabar mansion, "absoloute" -> absolute

Miscellaneous:

NPC in Pokémon Mansion can't be reached, blocked off by books on the ground. I believe this is on the top floor, took a break after spotting it so not 100% sure.

A house in Celadon that looks like it was robbed has a police officer inside. The officer asks "You took on the Rocket Gang?" though I haven't reached a part of the story where I've battled the Rocket Gang, so I think this house is accessible a bit too early.

Thanks so much - all of these have been sorted aside from the inaccessible NPC, she is supposed to be like that. Amazing that you took the time to talk to everybody and note these down!

Side note:-

HUGE UPDATE COMING

Kanto is almost complete. I have added a shed load of content and overall improvements to the game. This really has taken a lot of work and I’m super excited to share the Kanto completed version with you all. Hopefully only a couple of weeks away from what is a full length game!

DaleFails · May 29, 2023

Announcement
It is is here! The completed Kanto version of the game!

New features since previous release:

Kanto is finished, fully mapped and scripted.
Three additional gym badges (eight in total) and the Kanto Pokémon League can be challenged.
Speed Up button added to make grinding, wild Pokémon hunting or basic trainers battle less tedious.
Boss battles! There is a whole host of wild boss Pokémon available to be challenged!
Side quests; talk to NPCs and you will receive hints about side quests!
Level Caps - level caps now stop you from over-levelling before the next gym leader!
New soundtracks - all music featured is from the gen 1 and 2 games, as well as other Pokémon GBC/GBA games.

Please leave any feedback below such as bugs or typos. I have developed and bug tested this single headedly, so no doubt I have missed stuff! Thanks all!

Amallah · May 31, 2023

After having to format my PC and lost my save data last week, I'm glad I waited a few extra days for this update before restarting! Looking forward to playing it tomorrow

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